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These are merely rough notes - but I am posting them in case they are of use to fellow researchers. In the future, my plan is to organize the data more efficiently.
Sharon Oddie Brown. September 23, 2008

My 2008 Griffiths Research Notes

(Not exhaustive – merely a start)

The data comes from the 1864 Griffiths maps and survey.

SOURCE: http://staging.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_place_search_form.php

 

Townland

Parish

Page

Notes

Liscalgot

Creggan

8-9

Samuel GILMORE has the house worth £9.0.0 & David JACKSON has land worth 38.0.0. Richard ALLEN is the lessee (is he the ALLEN in the photos?) David JACKSON also leases 3 small “houses” worth 5s, 5s, 10s.

Ballylisk

Kilmore

12

OLIVER, Thomas had 13 acres 1 rood 30 perches valued at £15.5.0 and a house or office valued at £1.5.0

Crossmaglen

Creggan

15

The lease of the Police barrack & yard are connected to William STITT (this would likely be the father of Gordon STITT)- lease value of £8.0.0. He also owned a house valued at £3.5.0, another at £3.0.0 an unoccupied one at £5.0.0 and significantly, one leased by him to Gordon HOLMES valued at £12.0.0. It would have been down the street from where I stayed at Murtaghs.

Urcher

Creggan

26

David JACKSON had 55 acres leased. Presumably it was reasonably fertile as it was valued at £41.10.0 while in the same parish about 82 acres was valued as £43. Urker house was valued at £9.0.0. A much grander house was leased by Margaret Anne BERNARD valued at £29.0.0. I suspect that this became the CORR residence. There is also a Michael PIDGEON – likely of the house that I thought was the pigeon house. A modest house, valued at 10s.

Knocknashane

Shankill

29

William OSBORNE; John KANE;GILMORE; BROWN;

Lurgan

Shankill

29

John VANCE;

Leghaghory

Shankill

29

COULTER; HUTCHINSON

Carran

Creggan

30

DONALDSON, Alexander; DALY, Felix, Daniel, Patrick; STITT, William

Cloghoge

Creggan

31

BROWNE, Alexander; DONALDSON, McELVEEN; McCULLAGH, George;

Cloghoge

Creggan

32

DALY

Sheetrim

Creggan

37

DONALDSON, Oswald;

Derrylee

Tartaraghan

51

ELLIOTT, James

Kiltybane

AKA-Kiltybawn

Newtown Hamilton

60

DONALDSON, Rev. Joseph; DONALDSON, Elizabeth. SEE also: 1871 Dec 18 document. In 1857, Elizabeth Johanna DONALDSON née JACKSON was assigned the farm. In 1858, Margaret BRADFORD assumed a mortgage.  Margaret BRADFORD (aunt of Elizabeth Johanna JACKSON and also of Eliza JACKSON née OLIVER) died in 1874. Work started on a building for “Aunt Bessie” in 1874 – I suspect this was at Kiltybane (need to clarify footnotes in one letter). It seems that Bessie was rejected by the DONALDSON family – possibly as a result of her son’s mental illness and her husband’s early demise (age 36).

Tullyvallen

Newtown Hamilton

66

Henry KIDD; Eliz DONALDSON; John McCULLAGH.

Tullyvallen

Newtown Hamilton

67

Cornelius HUGHES – need to check this out. Wm McCULLAGH; Eliz DONALDSON;

Lurgan

Shankill

67

Mary OLIVER building valuation £1.5.0. This is House #4 on The Rookery off High Street.

Tullyvallen

Newtown Hamilton

69

Rev Daniel Gunn BROWN[E] – house valued at £6.0.0. as well as 30 acres of land rented from reps of John REID. Note this was near the more substantial holdings of Rev. CROSSLE. Alexander STITT is in the town of Newtownhamilton living in buildings valued at £24.0.0 and also owning buildings valued at £16.0.0 which he leased out to Michael MARKEY.

Tullyvallen

Newtown Hamilton

70

Ellen DONALDSON leased building(s) valued at £19.5.0 on 13 Newry Street. Likely the Ellen DONALDSON who lived 1816-1888. She also leased two properties neighbouring one owned by Alexander STITT. A James JACKSON was also on the same street.

Drumorgan

Mullaghbrack

117

Rev. Henry KIDD leased an unfinished house from James McCULLAGH valued at £8.0.0. John & Wm KIDD also leased from James McCULLAGH. WALKER & NOBLE also lived there.

Derrymore

Newry

120

Samuel McCULLAGH

Newry

Newry

137

Letitia DONALDSON of Queen Street valued at £15.0.0 – likely a daughter of William DONALDSON who owned land in Tullyvallen & Knockavannon. In 1881 Slaters he is mentioned as a grocer on Newry Street, Newtownhamilton & also had a spirit & porter shop.

Maghery Kilcranny

Lisnadill

218

William MENARY leased the house named Maghery (NOTE: Not the one named Maghery House). It was owned by the Reps of Anne LYNE and included 71 acres as well as buildings valued at £10.0.0. He also leased a house & forge valued at £1.5.0 and three houses valued at 0.15.0. NOTE: There were several holdings held by Thomas SIMPSON. NOTE: There was a Thomas SIMPSON, a flour merchant in Armagh, who was named in the will of Benjamin OLIVER to deal with his assets which in 1832 included holdings in Maghery Kilcranny. Benjamin’s grand-daughter Mary JACKSON married William MENARY jr. Although in the Griffiths records, Maghery House is leased by James HAGAN from Thomas SIMPSON, ten years later when William MENARY (husband of Mary JACKSON) dies, his residence is given as Maghery House. TO DO: Look at deeds under LYNE, Anne.

Drumhirk

Derrynoose

223

John MENARY leased from William BOYD 18 acres and a house valued at £1.0.0.; Miss KIDD;

Roughan

Derrynoose

227

Miss KIDD (Dundrum)

Roughan

Derrynoose

228

Miss KIDD (Armagh); John MENARY leases 18.2.25 acres from William BOYD and a house valued at £1.0.0. He also leases to Sarah ARMSTRONG a modest house valued at £0.10.0.

Killyreavey

Derrynoose

228

Miss KIDD

Killyreavey

Derrynoose

229

Nathanial & John LESLIE; Agnes KIDD; John MENARY leased from William BOYD herd houses and land including ten acres valued at 4.15.0 and a modest dwelling valued at 0.15.0.

Knockrevan

Derrynoose

229

Jane McCULLAGH is leasing to a William & Catherine Anne BROWN – could there be a link to Thompson BROWN?

Knockrevan

Derrynoose

230

Representatives of Samuel KIDD

Camagh

Derrynoose

230

John McCULLAGH; John WALKER

Carryhugh

Derrynoose

232

William WALKER

Drumgar

Derynoose

232

Thomas OLIVER leased 1.1.0. acres from Sir James STRONGE

Keady

Keady

239

259

William D. KIDD leased a Main Street home valued at £16.0.0 from William KIRK (the linen manufacturer?); Anna DOBBIN owned an unoccupied house valued at £20.0.0.On Chapel Street, Benjamin OLIVER owned a house valued at £2.0.0. Next door, Benjamin OLIVER leased a house valued at £2.0.0 from Thomas WATSON. Next door was Jane SIMPSON (John) with house and garden valued at £1.15.0. Next door to that, a forge & garden valued at £1.5.0.

Aughnagurgan

Keady

246

Trustees of Samuel KIDD 9.1.0. acres. Also other land, 11.1.15 acres; also bleach mills and offices £130.0.0 and more land (25.2.25 acres) and houses… The bleach mill was leased to William McCALDIN.

Aughnagurgan

Keady

247

Trustees of Samuel KIDD – more land

Drumderg

Keady

252

Reps of John KIDD;

Iskymeadow

Keady

254

Miss KIDD (Dundrum)

Tassagh

Keady

256

Trustees of Samuel KIDD to Wm McCALDIN

Tullynamalloge

Keady

256

Note Jane & John SIMPSON & Anne Mount House. Also Trustees of Samuel KIDD and beetling mill & land

Corkley

Keady

257

James McCULLAGH;

Drumderg

Keady

257

William McCULLAGH; John DOBBIN. Reps of John KIDD

Darkley

Keady

265

Trustees of Samuel KIDD to MORRISON, McLELLAN & McCALDIN beetling mill, managers house & land worth £120.0.0. Hugh SIMPSON lots of leases. Also check out David & Margaret McCULLAGH. & HARPUR.

Darkley

Keady

266

Trustees of Samuel KIDD to MORRISON, McLELLAN & McCALDIN beetling mill & offices £75.0.0. Also Osborne KIDD several acreages. Also Margaret McKEAN leased to Wm KIRK spinning & weaving mills valued for £500.0.0.

Dundrum

Keady

269

Trustees Samuel KIDD Beetling mill etc 15.0.0. Archibald KIDD small houses leased to others near James McCULLAGH.

Dundrum

Keady

270

Trustees of Samuel KIDD Plantation.

Racarbry

Keady

270

No KIDD – but there are DOBBINs. I suspect that Wm KIRK & sons had acquired the beetling mills from them.

Racarbry

Keady

273

DOBBIN

Tullyglush

Keady

273

Trustees of Samuel KIDD - Bleach mill, warehouses office & land.

Kennedies

Lisnadill

282

Osborne KIDD leased 61.0.25 acres from Vicars Choral of Armagh Cathedral; Hugh FEGAN leased from Robert KENNEDY; William McCRUM leased from Vicars Choral of Armagh Cathedral house office flax mill and land (land = 46.0.6 acres & buildings valued at £42.0.0); William McCRUM & Robert McCRUM also held title to numerous other buildings as well as a weaving factory, clerk’s office and stores valued at £90.0.0; Osbouirne KIDD leased 3.2.0 acres from Vicars Choral of Armagh Cathedral and had title to a house valued at £1.5.0.

Ballynahonebeg

Lisnadill

284

The reps of John JACKSON & others had land = 113.0.10 acres & house, office & thrashing mill valued at £20.0.0; Osborne KIDD leased from George McWILLIAMS 24.0.20 acres & house & office valued at £27.0.0; Osbourne KIDD also held title to an unoccupied house valued at £3.0.0, a flour mill valued at £45.0.0 and several other small houses.

Ballynahonebeg

Lisnadill

285

William McCRUM also leased 7 cotttiers houses valued £4.5.0 and land =38.1.13.

Enagh

Lisnadill

285

Osborne KIDD had a house valued at £3.10.0 as well as land leased from Vicars Choral of Armagh Cathedral =3.3.15; Robert OLIVER had a house valued at £1.0.0; Thomas & William OLIVER had a cottiers house valued at £1.0.0 & 48.2.24 acres leased from Vicars Choral of Armagh Cathedral.

Farmacaffley

Lisnadill

285

Joseph WILSON leased to Charles O’NEIL limestone quarry.

Farmacaffley

Lisnadill

286

Henry T. PRENTICE leased land (NOTE: PRENTICE witness a frequent name in OLIVER leases).

Killynure

Lisnadill

286

Thomas & William OLIVER leased from Vicars Choral of Armagh Cathedral 55.3.20 acres valued at £60.10.0 & buildings valued at £6.10.0. The other buildings held by others had smaller valuations except for the buildings of William COUSER jr. whose were valued at £9.0.0 (but he only had 13.2.15 acres).

Lisbanoe

Lisnadill

286

Osborne KIDD leased flour mill & land from Vicars Choral of Armagh Cathedral land was 3.1.10 acres and buildings were valued at £55.0.0.

Lisdrumard

Lisnadill

290

Thomas & William OLIVER leased from Rev. Joseph F. LEATHLEY 66.3.30 acres as well as a herds house & offices valued at £4.10.0

Ballycoffee or Ballyhoy

Lisnadill

290

John ROCKS & Bernard ROCKS leased a caretakers house & land of modest values. Perhaps related to the ROCKS who married John OLIVER of Tullymore.

Knockagraphy

Eglish

306

William OLIVER “in fee” held 24.3.6 acres.

Navan

Eglish

310

John OLIVER leased from William LEEMAN a modest building valued at £10.0.0.

Tray

Eglish

311

The representatives of Charles SEAVER leased a number of small buildings and moderate acreages. Included in the lessees were William JACKSON & John HART.

Derryhaw

Tynan

315

Eliza OLIVER leased a small acreage – just enough to site a building with a valuation of £0.10.0. The Belfast Bank had more substantial holdings (34.1.10 acres & buildings = £13.10.0) – Joseph KIDD was the manager. A James DALY leased from ARMSTRONG a flax mill & land. A John MENARY leased from ARMSTRONG 4.3.5 acres and a building valued at £1.5.0.

Cavanagarvan

Tynan

317

Martha McCRUM, Thomas MCCRUM & Catherine KIDD held various leases.

Killylea

Tynan

319

Martha OLIVER leased a modest house valued at £1.0.0.

Killylea village

Tynan

320

James OLIVER & another leased from ARMSTRONG a house valued at £1.15.0

Ballycrummy

Armagh

324

Osborne KIDD leased Ballycrummy House to Robert BELL. The house is on the road to Killylea. It was valued at £17.0.0. He also leased land from Mrs. MARTIN. Earlier maps show a quarry & distillery in Ballycrummy east of Ballycrummy House. It is unclear who had them (need to check maps)..

Drumadd

Armagh

326

In the Village of Drumadd, Patrick ROCK had a house & garden valued at £1.5.0.

Legarhill

Armagh

329

Osborne KIDD leased land;

Tullymore

Armagh

330

The buildings that Osborne KIDD leased from the Lord Archbishop of Armagh as documented in the 1864 Griffiths are valued at £45. The farmland amounts to 62 acres 2 roods. Total value of land and house = £167.15.0. This acreage corresponds to earlier OLIVER presences on the land:

 

1766 Jan 10 – 77 acres of Tullymore leased by John OLIVER from John JOHNSTON for 14 years. It is significant that the deed mentions: to manage and repair the mill dam and mill race belonging to the mill of Tullymore and also mentions Joseph OLIVER.

1776 will mentions nephew William OLIVER of Tullymore (1807 Jan 20 deed)

1780 lease from 1766 would have matured. I have nothing of this

1800 May 5 Robert WELSH-John OLIVER Lease of all the mills and farm of Tullymore.

1803 John OLIVER married WHITESIDE -5 acres of Tullymore part of agreement.

1804 Oct 31 Jane HAMILTON of Tullymore married Joseph OLIVER. Laragh and Cavananore were offered up as an annuity should Jane survive her husband (which she did). This is part of the legal and financial underpinnings to the conflict in Laragh in the 1840s. Also of interest: the lands of Tullymore then in the possession of the said Jane Hamilton containing sixty acres three roods and thirty three perches excepting as in said Indenture mentioned situate in the Parish and County of Armagh aforesaid together with all and singular the houses buildings ways waters easements and appurtenances thereunto belonging or in any wise appertaining.

1807 May 6 Joseph OLIVER of Tullymore had 94 acres in the Kennedies leased from John PRINGLE.

Need to explore: HAMILTON-OLIVER; JOHNSTON-OLIVER; PRINGLE-OLIVER and the Vicars Choral and Organist of St. Patrick's Cathedral of Armagh;

Umgola

Armagh

331

The corn mill, kiln stores and land were leased by William MAZIERE to William BOYD who held the leases to the rest of Umgola.

Upper English Street

Armagh

335

Representatives of William Lodge KIDD a house valued at £50.0.0. He was a surgeon (see family tree).

Upper English Street

Armagh

336

Adelaide Sarah KIDD leased to Joseph KIDD (Manager of Belfast Banking Co.) The Belfast Bank Manager’s home valued at £98.0.0. I suspect that she was the Adelaide KIDD who was the daughter of Thomas KIDD & Sarah SHILLINGTON. Joseph KIDD was likely the son of Benjamin KIDD & Agnes OSBORNE. Rev. Daniel Gunn BROWN[E] owned two houses (#73 & 74) just down the street that he leased out. They were valued at £28.0.0 & £46.0.0

Upper English Street

Armagh

337

Rev. Daniel Gunn BROWN[E] owns a house #76 valued at £28.0.0. It is right beside Matthew BELL. (I don’t know if he is the one who was the father of Thomas BELL (who married Eliza CHARLETON).)

Russell Street

Armagh

337

Mrs. S. KIDD in a house valued at £18.0.0. She is resident beside a Matthew R. BELL whose house was valued at £26.0.0.

Dawson Street

Armagh

344

A number of houses were owned and leased out by Reps. of William Lodge KIDD.

Barrack Street

Armagh

347

One tidbit of interest: Jackson PILLOW leased to James ELLIOTT a house valued at £8.0.0.

The Mall Beresford Row

Armagh

351

Osborne KIDD leased a house valued at £6.0.0. Further down the road Mary MAULEVERER leases a house valued at £40.0.0 (Any connection to the murdered MAULEVERER?);

Charlemount Place

Armagh

351

Margaret KIDD leased an office and garden (1 acre valued at £4.10.0 & a building valued at 0.10.0). She also leases a house valued at £63.0.0. The other houses adjacent have similarly high valuations and are all owned by Thomas G. HENRY.

The Mall

Armagh

351

Esther REID –teacher house valued at £6.0.0.

Thomas Street

Armagh

353

Given that Andrew OLIVER held leases here in the late 1700s, the absence of any OLIVER name is significant. There is however a Jane McCULLAGH. This could be the Jane OLIVER who married John McCULLAGH (she was a sister of my g-g-grandfather Benjamin OLIVER). She leases out a couple of houses at ££6.0.0 & £6.0.0. Further down the street, Messrs McCULLAGH also leased a house valued at £8.0.0.  The Misses KIDD had a house valued at £10.00. Interestingly, there is also a sawmill with house and stored valued at £46.0.0 owned by Rev. Samuel SIMPSON (Note the name SIMPSON as a witness in will of Benjamin OLIVER). Leonard DOBBIN also had a house valued at £24.0.0.

Linen Hall Street

Armagh

354

VILLIERS, Eliza leased from David GRIFFIN

Dobbin Street Lane

Armagh

356

Clothilda KIDD is mentioned in relation to the Mud Depot. I am unsure what this means.

Middletown

Tynan

393

Joseph OLIVER leased from Bishop Sterne’s Charities a modest house valued at £1.10.0.

Sheetrim

Tynan

405

Thomas OLIVER leased from George ROGERS a house valued at £1.0.0.

Drumsallen Upper

Eglish

431

John OLIVER leased from Augustine KEENE house office (£1.5.0) & land (2.3.30 acres) valued at £4.10.0.

Lissnafeedy

Eglish

432

 

Jane OLIVER (married McCULLAGH) was from Lisnafeedy in 1801 but there are no OLIVERs in Griffiths. Note Lisnafeedy is near Killylea in Eglish Parish and is also two townlands west of Mullinture – a townland with historic OLIVER roots as early as 1703.

Samuel Lester Knipe
24 Lisnafeedy Road
Killylea County Armagh BT60 4NY

Tel: 02837 548648

Lands of Tullysarren in hands of Samuel KNIPE deed 1785 July 29

Kilmatroy

Eglish

432

William & John MENARY leased from Augustine KEENE 26.1.25 & 16.0.35 acres respectively and had houses valued at £2.0.0 and £1.5.0.

Mullantur

Eglish

432

Esther OLIVER leased from Augustine KEENE 21.3.0 acres and a house valued at £29.10.0. It is likely that this connects back to the land inhabited by William, Mary & Jane OLIVER in 1703. In 1819, there is an abstract of a will for an Esther OLIVER who may be an ancestor of the one who was alive in 1864 (Griffiths records).

 

 

 

 

 

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