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OLIVERs of Mullinture and Tullysarren, Parish of Eglish, Co. Armagh

The names mentioned in the following Deed extracts and such are (in order of appearance): various OLIVERs; James DOBBIN; John & Jane McCULLAGH; George McCULLAGH; Elizabeth VANCE; William & James DOBBIN: James HOLMES; Catherine WHITESIDE; John & Alexander KANE; George & William COCHRAN; John MOSSON; William SCOTT; Henry HUTCHINSON; Samuel KNIPE; Unnamed CALDWELL; John TROTTER; John Lloyd SAUNDERSON.
Sharon Oddie Brown. July 21, 2007
Minor changes. July 25, 2007
July 26, 2007 New townland information - significant!
Updated November 14, 2007 NOTE: I removed a few of my earlier ill-founded conjectures and added new information on several individuals in the footnotes.

Again on December 8, 2007 - Rebecca Holmes info.

 

 NOTE: I have developed this family tree for the OLIVERs of Mullinture based on deeds and other sources and have then appended the pertinent deeds. Thanks to huge gaps in the records that I have to date, this particular page is more likely than many to be rife with errors. I am sharing what I have so farin the hopes that it can act as an aide to puzzling out more. It is exceedingly important that the assumptions in this page do not blind us to other and possibly truer options.
I have flagged items that I want to show up in my “to do” list in red.

·        In 1703, a William, Mary & Jane OLIVER were already living at Mullintur [1] , in the Parish of Eglish (there are two townlands named Mullintur but the other one is unlikely). No mention is made of how they might be related to each other. They may have been siblings, or related in marriage or cousins – all bets are on the table at this point.

·        Mary OLIVER married James DOBBIN in 1711 (see beneath) The fact that a Mary OLIVER of this line (see beneath) married a DOBBIN is significant because the OLIVER-DOBBIN link is also corroborated in the earlier histories relating to the OLIVERs of Killinure (my family line). NOTE: I believe that somewhere I have a reference to an even earlier DOBBIN-OLIVER marriage – mid 1600s. Need to find.

·        There is no mention of a Jane OLIVER in marriage records (so far) although in 1710 a Jane McCULLAGH married a John McCULLAGH. Given other errors in the 1st Presbyterian Armagh Register (it is a typescript record copied from the original register), it is not to be ruled out that this Jane McCULLAGH was in fact an OLIVER – although this is too feeble a hunch to base anything on at this time.

·        There is also a George McCULLAGH who married a Margaret OLIVER in 1750 – which given how often cousins married cousins may be significant even though it is a generation later. Since a significant branch of the McCULLAGHs lived near Newtownhamilton, the family of Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton may be involved.

·        NOTE: A copy of the dissertation by a William OLIVER (1659-1716) [2] is held in the collection of the Armagh Robinson Library. Why would they have a copy? He allegedly came from an OLIVER family in Cornwall and died unmarried – so I do wonder what the connection with Armagh might be.

·        Michael DOBBIN (Email Jan 24, 2005) mentions that William, the brother of Mary, was a was a prominent member of society …. possibly an author. This may be one of those bits that got muddled in generations of family stories. That there was an author in the OLIVER family is entirely possible. That he was the brother of Mary of Mullintur, not necessarily. The occupation of farmer or linen draper is a better fit.

·        St. Marks burials have a record of an Elinor OLIVER of Mullintarr who was buried May 10, 1753. I suspect a relation.

 

  1.  William OLIVER.

Born: Before 1703 – likely before 1680 Considerable detective work has been done here and more is needed, although the required records may elude us.

·         NOTE: page 11 of Irish Ancestry of Henry (William) OLIVER mentions a William OLIVER born about 1670 possibly at SherranmcAghully (AKA Farmacaffley), Parish of Eglish, Co. Armagh or Tattykeel, Parish of Kildrss, Co. Tyrone and hypothesises that he was a son of Andrew OLIVER of Tattykeel and therefore the brother of an Eliza OLIVER who married John VANCE (page 10). The author suggests that he probably died before 1740. This conjecture was based on the fact that he was not listed among the Protestant Householders at that time. The difficulty with this is that these records have only survived for 6 parishes in Armagh.

·         Some of Irish Ancestry of Henry (William) OLIVER is based on the document called Account of William OLIVER and his descendants written in 1903 by an unnamed elderly relative. I have yet to source this document, although I have written to the descendants of the man who commissioned the Irish Ancestry to ask for it.

·         In 1709 & 1710 & 1712 in the 1st Armagh Presbyterian Registry, several births of children to Andrew, William & Stephen OLIVER are noted – this cluster of names fits with the names of three brothers mentioned in Irish Ancestry of Henry (William) Oliver a generation earlier – The Andrew who was the father of this William as also a brother to a Stephen and a William. Also, I suspect that the Presbyterian Church is a close fit with Huguenot descendants and OLIVERs who were farmers and in the linen industry than the Church of Ireland might have been.

·         Interestingly, a RootsWeb tree of the SPEER family has this William OLIVER born in Latakeel, near Cookstown, Co. Tyrone, Ulster. The source they used was: Irish Pedigree. John O’Hart.  Not all the facts in this tree ring true. For example, Elizabeth VANCE née OLIVER is alleged to have been born in 1700 and to have died in 1800. Without documentation to validate them, deaths at age 100 are usually suspect.

·         NOTE: The Armagh Hearth Rolls of 1663 show Stephen & William OLIVER at Ballyduffe And Andrew OLIVER at SherranmcAghully. None of these townland names are current, but SherranmcAghully is now known as Farmacaffley, Parish of Lisnadill  and Ballyduffe is known as Ballydoo, Parish of Eglish (thanks to Kay Muhr, a senior fellow researcher with the Northern Ireland Place-Name Project at Queens University. Ballydoo is in the southern part of the Parish of Eglish – a few small townlands south of Mullinture.

Died: 1726 is my best hunch. SOURCE: A will was probated in 1726 for a William OLIVER of Mullinture.

Married: I have no record of his wife’s name.

..-2 William OLIVER. An OLIVER-HOLMES 1807 Jan 20 DEED 580-365-398643 refers to an earlier deed of 1761 where lands of Tullysaren were granted to William OLIVER of Mullintur. NOTE: Tullysaren is on the eastern border of the townland of Mullinture. In another deed (1771 Sept 17, Deed 287-474-187934), a William OLIVER of Mullintur is mentioned in connection with selling the lease for Tyrearly – a townland in the Parish of Lisnadill and north of Killinure – just one townland is between them.

Born

Died: Probably in 1779. Occupation - Linen draper.

·        SOURCE: Will probate Also, he had a will written Oct 19, 1776 before his death which mentions a nephew Andrew OLIVER of Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh (this nephew is possibly the son of his brother John OLIVER of Tullymore – either that or else there are brothers whose names I do not know) SOURCE: 1807 Jan 20 DEED: 580-365-398643

Married: Bachelor

·        SOURCE: 1785 Aug 10 Deed 375-10-247623. The lands of Tullysaren are also mentioned here. Also, two brothers: Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh Gent & John OLIVER of Tullymore, Co. Armagh, Gent. A Revd Andrew OLIVER of Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh is also mentioned in this deed. He may be the son of John OLIVER, the nephew mentioned in

·        SOURCE: 1807 Jan 20 DEED: 580-365-398643

 

..-2   Mary OLIVER She married and had three known children. She and her husband lived at Tirnascobe, Parish of Armagh. Subsequent generations may have become Church of Ireland as there is a record at St. Marks of a Mary Jane DOBBIN born in 1820 at Ternascobe to parents William & Eliza DOBBIN. (NOTE variant spelling of the townland depending on the source: Tirnascobe & Ternascobe.)

Born:

Died:

Married: December 6, 1711. James DOBBIN.

·        SOURCE: 1st Presbyterian Armagh. He was from Tirnascobe and Rathdrumgran.

·        SOURCE: Email Feb 8, 2006 from Lori CHECHI.

….-3 Unnamed son who died in infancy

….-3 William DOBBIN

·        SOURCE: Email Feb 8, 2006 from Lori CHECHI.

Born: Baptized Sept 12, 1711. Died

Married: Possibly Eliza.

…-3 James DOBBIN He became the 1st Presbyterian Minister at Newtownards, Co. Down

·        SOURCE: Email Feb 8, 2006 from Lori CHECHI.

Born: Baptized Feb 16, 1714

Died:

Married:

..-2   John OLIVER Tullymore has a dam and millrace that would have been suitable for aspects of linen production.

NOTE: See PRONI D/288/41 Deed of 1766 JOHNSTON-OLIVER John OLIVER Parish & Co of Armagh… Linen Draper. He was also resident at Tullycarrent, Co. Armagh (although I can find no record of a townland so named – I suspect a transcription error and that Tullysaren is more likely.). SOURCE: Dec 1, 1803 Deed 563-124-374649

SOURCE: 1785 Aug 10 Deed 375-10-247623 in 1785. Two brothers of William OLIVER (d. 1779) are mentioned: Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh Gent & John OLIVER of Tullymore, Co. Armagh, Gent.

Born:

Died: Likely 1772. SOURCE: The will of a John OLIVER of Tullymore was probated in Armagh in 1772.

Married:

….-3 Rebecca OLIVER Look at Deeds Registry for HOLMES-OLIVER.

·        SOURCE: 1807 Jan 20 Deed 580-365-398643 referring to a deed from 1761 November 4 to William OLIVER of Mullintur for the lifetimes of two of John OLIVER of Tullymore’s children: Rebecca age 15 (therefore b. 1746)

 

Born: 1746

Died: 1813 at Blackwatertown, Co, Armagh. NOTE: This is a hunch based on Index of wills.

Married: 1774 Married James HOLMES. SOURCE: Armagh Marriage Bonds from Index read at Pearce Library (Need to check the actual title of the source). SOURCE:  Jan 20, 1807 Deed 580-365-398643– they are both mentioned as husband and wife in a deed relating to John OLIVER of Tullysarren. They were described as being of Blackwater, Co. Armagh. NOTE: He may have been related to Robert HOLMES of Blackwatertown who married Margaret MOORE of Knappagh Nov 5, 1801 at 1st Presbyterian, Armagh.

….-3 Andrew OLIVER He is possibly the Rev. Andrew OLIVER of Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh. There was a Rev. Andrew OLIVER in the poll books in Enniskillen in 1788. This one is likely the clerk Andrew OLIVER of Enniskillen who had a will probated in Fermanagh in 1793.

·        SOURCE: 1807 Jan 20 Deed 580-365-398643 referring to a deed from 1761 November 4 to William OLIVER of Mullintur for the lifetimes of two of John OLIVER of Tullymore’s children: Rebecca age 15 (therefore b. 1746) & Andrew age 13 (therefore b. 1748)

Born: 1748

Died:

Married:

….-3  John OLIVER  This is a hunch. DEED: 563-124-374649 refers to the father of John OLIVER of Tullymore as being John OLIVER of Tullycarrent - except that I can find no record of such a townland. I am wondering if it might be an alternative name for Tullysaren (near Mullintur)

·        SOURCE: June 25, 1800 DEED: 523-426-346117 WELSH-OLIVER. This deed refers to his father as being John OLIVER of Tullysarren (likely his father) and WHITESIDE.

Born: probably Tullymore.

Died: Possibly 1806, Feb 9, a John OLIVER of Tullymore Sturgeon was interred at St. Patrick’s Cathedral (Church of Ireland).

Married: Bef. 1803 Catherine WHITESIDE SOURCE: DEED: 563-124-374649 Dec 1, 1803

….-3  William OLIVER  This is only a possible placement based on a mention as a nephew of William OLIVER alongside the reference to John OLIVER (a possible brother) in 1807 Jan 20 Deed 580-365-398643

Born:

Married:

Died:

….-3 Anne OLIVER. NOTE: TO DO Check this out – I have mislaid the references.

Born:

Died:

Married:

..-2   Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh. He married Elinor DAWSON. His connection to the OLIVERs of Tullysarren needs exploring here as well. It seems that the OLIVERs of Mullinture are the same ones as the OLIVERs of Tullysarren. This would not be surprising as the two townlands are right beside each other.

·        SOURCE: DEED: 324-274-214815 Sept 7 1777 & Feb 9 1778 “Andrew OLIVER and his wife Elinor both of Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh” conveyed lands in Enagh, Co. Monaghan to Thomas VERNER

SOURCE: D2538/G/50. 1781 Jan 1 Copy release from William Ashton, Gentleman, and Elizabeth Ashton, his wife, Carrickmacross, Co. Monaghan, Andrew Oliver, Gent., and Elinor Oliver [formerly Dawson], his wife, Newtownhamilton, Co. Tyrone and Susanna Dawson, of Carrickmacross, Co. Monaghan to Thomas Verner, of Church Hill, Co. Armagh, of Enagh, Co. Monaghan. Consideration £1591. 3s. 5d.

·        SOURCE: June 10 1782 Deed 345-89-232259 between Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton & William OLIVER of Tullysarren. There is mention of children of Andrew & Elinor OLIVER (no names are given).

·        SOURCE: 1792 Nov 6 DEED 467-472-301564 mentions an Andrew OLIVER of Tullysarren.

·         SOURCE: Belfast Newsletter mentions a marriage of Alicia OLIVER Sept 19, 1821 of Tullysarn House (Tullysarren, likely) to Jack LYONS. I don’t know where she fits, but since there is a Tullsarren connection in this family, she may be a descendant.

·        SOURCE:  1st Armagh Presbyterian has records of an Andrew OLIVER having children: John (1708), Mary (1709), Jane (1709) Agnes (1711), Martha (1712), and James (1715). This is a likely cluster of births – whether they are his or not is a moot point. Since his sister Mary OLIVER (DOBBIN) married in 1711, the time frame looks good.

·        SOURCE: 1785 Aug 10 DEED: 375-10-247623 in 1785. Two brothers of William OLIVER (d. 1779) are mentioned: Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton (a distiller), Co. Armagh Gent & John OLIVER of Tullymore, Co. Armagh, Gent.

Born:

Died:

Married: Elinor before 1777 SOURCE: Sept 8 1777 Deed 324-274-214815.

 

Deeds Associated with Mullintur:

 

1771 Sept 17 DEED: 287-474-187934 KANE-OLIVER

A memorial of an indenture of mortgage bearing date the twenty fifth day of June one thousand seven hundred seventy one made between John KANE [3] of Tyrearly [4] in the County of Armagh Farmer of the one part and William OLIVER [5] of Mullinture [6] in the said County Farmer of the other part.. Recites that whereas The Right Honourable James Earl of Charlemount [7] did by lease bearing date the first day of January one thousand seven hundred and sixty six  Demised unto the said John KANE his heirs and  assigns all that part and parcel of the Town and Lands of Tyrearly containing forty nine acres three roods and eleven perches English statute measure situate in the Manor of Charlemount and County of Armagh to hold unto the said John KANE his heirs and assigns from the first day of November then last past for and during the natural life and lives of John KANE and Alexander KANE [8] second son of John KANE and George COCHRAN [9] son of William COCHRAN [10] Younger and the survivor of them at the yearly rent of thirty one pounds  two shillings and eight pence halfpenny which deed witnessed that the said John KANE in consideration of the sum of thirty six pounds one shilling did grant sell release and confirm to the said William OLIVER his heirs and assigns for and during the lives  in said recited lease mentioned all the said Lands and Premes in said recited lease contained with all the Estate right of title of him & said John KANE to the said Premes to have and to hold all and singular the said recited land and premes unto the said Wm OLIVER his heirs and assigns for and during the natural lives of  the said John KANE Alexander KANE and George COCHRAN provided that if the said John KANE shall pay to the said Wm OLIVER the said sum of thirty six pounds  one shilling with [?] Interest for the same on the first day of July then next following then the said indenture to be void. Which said indenture is witnessed by Joseph OLIVER [11] of the County of Armagh, Linen Merchant John MOSSON [12] of the Town and County of Armagh Gent and George McCULLAGH [13] of said County Linen Merchant and this memorial is witnessed by the said Joseph OLIVER and the William OLIVER [SEAL] . Signed and sealed by the above named William OLIVER  in the presence of Joseph OLIVER  and John MOSSON. The above named John MOSSON maketh oath that he saw the above named John KANE  duly execute the indenture of mortgage whereof the above is a memorial and also saw the above named William OLIVER  sign seal this memorial  and that he this Dept is a subscribed  witness to said indenture  and Memorial and that  the name John MOSSON subscribed as a witness to said Indentured Memorial  is this Dept’s name  and in his own proper handwriting  John MOSSON. Sworn before me at a General Assizes held at Armagh for the County Armagh  this 17th day of September 1771. Will SCOTT [14]

 

1777 Sept 8 DEED: 324-274-214815 OLIVER, Andrew - VERNER

NOTES: 1778 Feb 9 re: 1777 Sept 7 Article of agreement between Andrew OLIVER [15] and his wife Elinor OLIVER [16] both of Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh & Thomas VERNER [17] of Churchill, Co. Armagh “Whereby it is mentioned that the said Andrew and Elinor his wife for the consideration therein mentioned agreed they would on or before the first December then next make out a good and legal title free from all encumbrances to one undivided third part of the Tate Town and lands of Enogh otherwise Enagh [18] in the County of Monaghan with the Appurts and would Grant and convey the same to the said Thomas VERNER .... witness Edmond MADDEN [19] of Lismaclin [20] , Co. Tyrone Clerk & John BRYAN [21] of the City of Dublin yeoman & John RICHARDSON [22] of Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone, Surveyor.

 

1782 June 10 DEED: 345-89-232259  OLIVER, Andrew - OLIVER, William

NOTES:  Deed between Andrew OLIVER [23] of Newtownhamilton Co. Armagh, distiller of the one part & William OLIVER [24] of Tullysarren, Co. Armagh Gent of he other part. Andrew OLIVER has a lease from the Rev. & Dr. Hugh HAMILTON [25] , Dean of Armagh of land in the town of Newtownhamilton for 5 shillings pd by Wm. OLIVER he[?] assigns the annuity or yearly sum of £30. Mention of trust for Andrew, wife Elinor [26] & mention of children (unnamed)

 

1785 Aug 10 DEED: 375-10-247623. OLIVER, Andrew Rev - OLIVER, John

A Memorial of a deed of Mortgage by lease & release bearing date [?] the 28th and 29th days of July in the year 1785 between the Rev. Andrew OLIVER [27] of Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh Clerk, Andrew OLIVER [28] of Newtownhamilton in Co. Armagh Gent & John OLIVER [29] of Tullymore [30] in said Co. of Armagh Gent of the one part and James OLIVER [31] of Augsebragh [32] in the said Co. of Armagh Gent of the other part. Wherin is recited that Wm OLIVER [33] of Mullintur [34] in said County of Armagh being seized in the townland of Tullysarren [35] in the said County of Armagh devised the same to Rev OLIVER & Wm OLIVER share and share alike and also that said William OLIVER [36] died a bachelor intestate whereby his share in said lands descended to his two brothers the said Andrew OLIVER [37] & John OLIVER [38] and said release witnessed that the said Revd  Andrew OLIVER [39] , Andrew OLIVER and John OLIVER in consideration of the sum of £100.11s.1 ½ to them in hand paid by the said James OLIVER did grant bargain sell alien release and confirm unto the said James OLIVER his heirs and assigns all that and those the Town and Lands of Tullysarren formerly in the possession of Samuel KNIPE [40] deceased situate lying and being in the Manor of Charlemount and County of Armagh all the estate right to the interest claim and demand whatsoever of them the said Rev. Andrew OLIVER, Andrew OLIVER & John OLIVER of in to or out of the said premes share and to hold all the said released premes unto the said James OLIVER his heirs & assigns for ever subject to redemption or payment of the said sum of £122.11.1 ½ with legal interest on the 1st day of Sept next coming with said deed of mortgage & this memorial was witnessed by John MOSSON [41] of Armagh in the Co. of Armagh, Gent & Henry HUTCHISON [42] of the same Innkeeper. James OLIVER [SEAL] etc sworn 2 Aug 1785.

 

1792 Nov 6 Deed: 467-472-301564 OLIVER, Andrew - MANN1786-1793

NOTES: Andrew OLIVER [43] of Tullysarren, Co. Armagh farmer of the one part & [Joseph?] MANN [44] of Moy in Co. Tyrone Merchant of the other part. Andrew OLIVER by deed of mortgage 20 Oct 1792 for £20 to Charles MAN, 96 acres in townland of Tullysaren (seems to be a loan to Andrew OLIVER secured by the land).

 

1785 Oct 26 DEED: 374-237-248874 OLIVER, Andrew - MCMATH 1777-1785

NOTES: Between Andrew OLIVER [45] & Elinor [46] his wife of Newtownhamilton Co. Armagh of the one part & Andrew McMATH [47] of Aughadreena [48] , Co. Monaghan of the other part ... Andrew OLIVER with consent of wife Elinor & the sum of £300 made over to Andrew McMATH “all that range of buildings in Newtownhamilton aforesaid containing in front 76’ and by the New Inn extending in front 42’ together with the two Stables and Coach Houses and 3 roods of land and turf bog lying west of the road from Armagh to Dundalk with the Malt Kiln Distillery and apps thereon. Also that part of Francis McCAMMON [49] s Kitchen garden lying south of the wall inclosing the back yard of sd Inn together with that part of Tullyvallen then in possession of John MURPHY [50] containing and exclusive of the Law [bed?] River 5 acres 1 rood & [etc] ... Witness: John STEELE [51] , City of Dublin Attorney. James NIBLOCK [52] of Castleblayney, Co, Monaghan Innkeeper.

 

1800 May 5 DEED: 523-426-346117 Robert WELSH – John OLIVER
Meml of an article of agreement  Bearing Date  the 5th day  of May 1800 & made between  Robt WELSH [53] of Tullymore [54] Parish & Co of Armagh Miller of the one part and John OLIVER [55] of Sd Townland Parish & Co.  Farmer of the other part. Whereby the Sd Robt WELSH for the Considn in the Sd article Named did Demise Grant & to  / / /  let unto the John OLIVER all that Mill & farm in Tullymore  ...rent of [ponds]36  15 shillings sterling... witness by Tobias MAGUIRE [56] of Drumc??ow [57] , parish of Clonfealle, Co of Armagh. John OLIVER [58] of Tullysarren [59] , Parish & Co of Armagh & witnessed by Tobias MAGUIRE of & the Revd James WHITESIDE [60] of Drumflugh, Parish of Clonfeagle, Co. of Tyrone....

 

1803 December 1 DEED: 563-124-374649 John OLIVER to Catherine WHITESIDE

Deed of Marriage Settlement made this first day of decd in the year of our Lord 1803 Between John OLIVER [61] of Tullymore in the County of Armagh  Gent of the one part Catherine OLIVER [62] otherwise WHITESIDE wife of the said John OLIVER of the Second part of the Rev Jas WHITESIDE [63] of Drumflugh in the County of Tyrone of the third part. Whereby after rectg that a marriage had been some time ago been solemnized between the said John and Catherine and that the Sd John had not then made any provision or served any jointure for his wife in lease she Should Survive him the Sd Indentr Witnessed that the said John OLIVER ford? In Condn of the sum of ₤100 portion of the Sd Catherine to him in hand  ???? the receipt wherof is thereby acknowledged Did Grant ??? sell  Assign Transfer and set over unto the Sd. Jas WHITESIDE his Execs Admons and Assigns all that and those that part of the town and lands of Tullymore in the County of Armagh Aforesd Containg by Estimation of 5 acres one rood & 25 perches be the same more or less  as held by the Sd John OLIVER under a lease from Joshua McGEOGH [64] of Drumshill in the County of Armagh.  Etc etc

Deed is witnessed by John OLIVER [65] of Tullycarrent [66] in the County of Armagh father and Jas WHITESIDE [67] jr of Drumflugh in the Co of Tyrone Gent. [more not transcribed]

 

1807 Jan 20 DEED: 580-365-398643 OLIVER-HOLMES must order complete deed

John OLIVER to James HOLMES (hard to read) Between John OLIVER [68] of Tullysarren [69] County Armagh Farmer of the first part. Rebecca HOLMES [70] & James HOLMES [71] both of Blackwatertown [72] Co. Armagh of the other ... Whereas Right Honourable James Lord of Charlemount [73] by [?] of lease bearing date of 4th day of November 1761 [74] ... granted to William OLIVER [75] of Mullintur Co. Armagh Gent ... town and lands of Tullysarren formerly in possession of Samuel KNIPE [76] 96 acres 1 rood English statute measure ... to William OLIVER the lessee.Refers to earlier lease 4 Nov 1761 grant to William OLIVER of Mullintur, Co. Armagh Gent all lands of Tullysarren 96 A 1R in Charlemount, Co. Armagh for life and lives of Andrew OLIVER age 13 or thereabouts and Rebecca OLIVER age 15 years, eldest son & daughter of John OLIVER of Tullymore. William OLIVER is long since dead but before his death .... on 19 day of October 1776 his last will and testament ... left to his nephew William OLIVER [77] of Tullamore  & nephew Andrew OLIVER [78] of Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh land in equal proportion of town and lands of Tullysarren and townlands of Tullysarren in possession of  & the same Andrew OLIVER, William OLIVER shortly after the death of William OLIVER came to a portion of Tullysarren in the posession of John OLIVER ... then John OLIVER for £381.1.3 paid by Rebecca HOLMES & James HOLMES granted the lands of Tullysarren. Witnesses: [?] CALDWELL [79] innkeeper. John TROTER [80] of Mullybeggan [81] , Co. Armagh Farmer. John Lloyd SANDERSON [82] of Blackwatertown, Gent.

 



[1] SOURCE: Thomas Ashe’s Memoir Of the Archbishop of Armagh: A view or an account taken. COUNTY OF ARMAGH: MULLINTUR. It contains 80r 3p Irish plantation measure. It is very good land. William, Mary and Jane Oliver  are tenants and have a farm house [___]. This is Lyme-Stone-Land and bears good Corne

[2] Oliver, William A Practical Dissertation on Bath Waters. 1764 5th ed. Fellow of the Royal Society of the College of Physicians, London ; and Physician to the Royal Hospital at Greenwich. First published in 1707. He also wrote a discourse of Christian and Politike Reasons why England and Holland should not war with each other. SOURCE: Dictionary of National Biography, ed. Sidney Lee. Vol XLII, London 1895.

[3] John KANE of Tyrearly  A Farmer.

[4] Tyrearly AKA Tirearly is a townland in the Parish of Lisnadill on the western side of a clustering of townlands that all involve OLIVER leases

[5] William OLIVER of Mullinture, Farmer. He is probably the bachelor who died in 1779 and whose profession was that of linen draper (as well as farmer). NOTE: A will probate is what I am using to make this link since the name and place match up. According to Deed 375-10-247623, he died a bachelor. He was a brother of Mary who married DOBBIN, John of Tullymore & Andrew of Newtownhamilton.

[6] Mullinture, Parish of  Eglish., Co. Armagh.

[7] James, Earl of Charlemount.

[8] Alexander KANE second son of John KANE

[9] George COCHRAN son of  William COCHRAN the younger.

[10] William COCHRAN the younger (presumably son of William COCHRAN)

[11] Joseph OLIVER, linen merchant of Co. Armagh – is it possible that he the Joseph OLIVER of Ballynahonebeg and therefore possibly also a brother of David of Ballyrea? He could also be a son of John OLIVER of Tullymore, and therefore a nephew of William OLIVER of Mullinture.

[12] John MOSSON, Merchant of Town & County Armagh. He witnessed other deeds: 1781, Nov 7 & 1785, Aug 10.

[13] George McCULLAGH. A George McCULLAGH married a Margaret OLIVER in 1750. This may be the same one. SOURCE: National Archives 2007 notes on Armagh Marriages. NOTE: his connection to the linen trade. NOTE: An OLIVER-McCULLAGH deed that I noted in the townland index of 1739-1820 DEED: 543-105-357205 cannot be found under that number. TO DO: recheck the name index.

[14] William SCOTT It is of interest that LDS has a record of a William SCOTT who married an Isabella OLIVER in the Presbyterian Church of Drumbo, County Down. in 1720. Worth Checking out! A William SCOTT was also one of the Derry fighters in 1689 from Co. Monaghan. Both a William & a John SCOTT are mentioned in a 1718 DEED: 38-403-24787. A John SCOTT of Umgola is mentioned in a 1796  DEED: 510-33-328019 concerning OLIVERs as well as a 1797 DEED: 506-95-328017.

[15] Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton, a distiller and brother of William (of Mullinture who died a bachelor abt 1779), Mary who married DOBBIN & John of Tullymore.

[16] Elinor OLIVER, wife of Andrew OLIVER distiller of Newtownhamilton. They had several children.

[17] Thomas VERNER of Churchill, Parish of Killyman, Co. Armagh. The will of Thomas VERNER of Church Hill, Co. Armagh, 1786 is at PRONI: D/2538 under the VERNER WINGFIELD Papers.

SOURCE: http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/armagh/churchill_bell.shtml  In the late 18th century Mr Thomas Verner, a descendant from an early plantation family who had settled in Ulster in the early 17th century, bought about 4,000 acres from Lord Charlemont in the northern part of Co Armagh. He established a landed estate and built a house at the centre of his lands at Churchill in the townland of Mullenakille, close by to what is now known as Vernors Inn. He also set up a farming business. Thomas was successful and passed on to his great grand nephew William a thriving rural gentleman's enterprise known as Churchill House and Estate. Unfortunately, the estate did not fare so well under successive generations and finally in 1927 things came to an end.

[18] Enagh, Co. Monaghan. There are three townlands of this name in Co. Monaghan. I don’t know which one it might be. The Parish of Ematris is the best bet based on the fact that the VERNER family still had it in the Griffiths Valuations. Also of interest, this parish is just to the west of Aughnamullen, a parish that had other OLIVER interests.

[19] Edmond MADDEN of Lismaclin, Co. Tyrone Clerk.

[20] Lismaclin, Co. Tyrone It is tempting to see this as perhaps a transcription error for Lismulladown in the Parish of Aghaloo – a parish where there is a focus for the Tyrone branch of the OLIVER family.

[21] John BRYAN of the City of Dublin yeoman.

[22] John RICHARDSON of Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone, Surveyor

[23] Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton, a distiller and brother of William OLIVER (of Mullinture who died a bachelor abt 1779), Mary who married DOBBIN & John of Tullymore. Wife, Elinor – many children.

[24] William OLIVER of Tullysarren, Co. Armagh, Gent. I am working on hunches here, but I think it quite possible that he is the son of John OLIVER (d. 1772) of Tullymore -  a brother of the Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton. This is only a possible placement based on a mention as a nephew of William OLIVER alongside the reference to John OLIVER (a possible brother) in Deed# 580-365-398643

[25] Rev. & Dr. Hugh HAMILTON (1729-1805) Dean of Armagh; TCD MA, 1750; DD, 1762; FTCD, 1751-64; professor of natural philosophy, 1759; dean of Armagh, 1768-96; FRS; Bishop of Clonfert, 1796-99; Bishop of Ossory, 1799; collected works (1809). He had an interest in the observatory. I do not know if he was related to the Jane HAMILTON who married Joseph OLIVER of Tullymore. His son Hans HAMILTON, clerk married Susanna OLIVER (b. 1764 in Ardagh, Ireland) daughter of Silver OLIVER. SOURCE: DEED: 536-286-354735.

[26] Elinor OLIVER – we do not know her maiden name.

[27] Rev. Andrew OLIVER of Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh. He shows up there in the 1788 poll of electors. If he was a nephew of the William OLIVER who died between 1776-1779 (see Deed: 580-365-398643), then it is most possible based on what we know at this time that he was a son of John OLIVER of Tullymore, brother of the aforementioned William.

[28] Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton. Brother of William OLIVER (d. bet 1776-1779)of Mullinture and John of Tullymore (d1772). He was a distiller and husband of Elinor and they had many children whose names I do not yet have.

[29] John OLIVER of Tullymore. He was the father of Rebecca OLIVER & Andrew OLIVER and also was the brother of William OLIVER –the bachelor linen draper who died probably in 1779. A John OLIVER of Tullymore died in 1772 (SOURCE: Will Probate).

[30] Tullymore, in the Parish of Armagh. SEE My web page under Maps for Tullymore.

[31] James OLIVER of  Augsebragh. I can’t yet place him. In the same time frame as this lease, PRONI Freeholder records of 1796 show a James OLIVER as well as a John OLIVER leasing land at Tulnaloobe (AKA Tullynaloob) – a townland in the Parish of Drumkeeran, Co. Fermanagh.  Also, a James OLIVER of Armagh who leased lands in 1818 & 1828 in Lislooney. There is also a James OLIVER (1791-1863) in the Nicholson OLIVER line from Co. Tyrone (many family names are the same). James & Mark OLIVER leased land at Lismullydown, Parish of Aghaloo, Co. Tyrone in 1796 as did Robert OLIVER in nearby Aughasallagh. Interestingly, in the records of 1st Presbyterian Church, Armagh there is a record of the birth of a James OLIVER(1715), son of Andrew OLIVER. This might make him a son of Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton. SOURCE: The Irish Ancestry of Henry William OLIVER, Henry Oliver Rea, 1959 has a James OLIVER, SON OF Stephen born in 1750, in Tattykeel or Corchoney Townland, Parish of Kildress, CO. Tyrone.

[32] Augsebragh. There is no townland with the name in modern times in Co. Armagh. My best guess is Armaghbrague in the southernmost tip of the Parish of Lisnadill and with Tullyvallen (Parish of Newtownhamilton) on its southern border. That is, if the borders did not change. If it is in Co. Tyrone, then Aughasallagh is also a good bet. 

[33] William OLIVER. This is possibly the father of  William, Mary, John & Andrew OLIVER, the same William OLIVER who died in 1726 (SOURCE: Will Probate)

[34] Mullinture AKA  Mullanture is in the Parish of Eglish, Co. Armagh. It is bordered on the east by Tullysarren.

[35] Tullysarren, Parish of Eglish, bordered on the west by Mullanture. Of interest is that in 1825, leases were in place by the Earl of Charlemount to James KILPATRICK, Charles NIMMO (life of John NIMMO) James McMAHON & John SANDERSON. Eglish Parish. 2007 LDS Film # 853875 has many NIMMO & OLIVER references. Regrettably, I did not transcribe any of the NIMMO records, but my vital statistics files include a record of a Margaret OLIVER, daughter of Anthony OLIVER marrying a Charles NIMMO son of Charles NIMMO in 1847 in Eglish Parish. NOTE: A John SAUNDERSON married a Sarah OLIVER in 1805. SOURCE: National Archives 2007 notes on Marriage bonds.

[36] William OLIVER. Probably the bachelor linen draper who died in 1779.

[37] Andrew OLIVER – this would be the one of Newtownhamilton.

[38] John OLIVER – this would be the one of Tullymore

[39] Rev Andrew OLIVER – this would be the one of Enniskillen.

[40] Samuel KNIPE deceased. Interestingly, in Deed: 313-580-211019, 1777, Jan 27 involving the linen draper Robert JACKSON, John POOLER was named as the executor of Samuel KNIPE late of Ballymatran. (Probably Ballymartrim, Parish of Eglish, Co. Armagh).

[41] John MOSSON, Merchant of Town & County Armagh. He witnessed other deeds: 1781, Nov 7 &1771 Sept 17.

[42] Henry HUTCHINSON, innkeeper – there may be a familial connection. In 1776 a Robert OLIVER married Agnes HUTCHINSON (SOURCE: National Archives 2007 Notes on Armagh Marriages). The 1833 Tithe Appointments for Eglish Parish show a Robert OLIVER at Mullinture.

[43] Andrew OLIVER of Tullysarren, Co. Armagh farmer. At this time, I am unsure which Andrew OLIVER this might be. We are late enough in the 1700s to make this quite possibly an Andrew OLIVER of a generation that is at best foggy to us. Of Coures, Tullysarren is on the border of Mullinture, so I do suspect a connection to the Mullinture OLIVERs of the early 1700s.

[44] Joseph MANN The Irish Ancestry of Henry William OLIVER, Henry Oliver Rea, 1959 shows that there are familial links between the OLIVERs of Tyrone & the MANN family.

[45] Andrew OLIVER of Newtownhamilton. Brother of William OLIVER (d. bet 1776-1779)of Mullinture and John of Tullymore (d1772). He was a distiller and husband of Elinor and they had many children whose names I do not yet have.

[46] Elinor OLIVER – her maiden name is not known to me yet.

[47] Andrew McMATH. I do not know who he was, although I find it of interest that an Andrew McMATH & wife Sarah of Urker, Co. Armagh had a daughter in 1843 (Since Eliza JACKSON née OLIVER lived there too at this time, this bespeaks a McMATH- OLIVER connection. SOURCE: PRONI MIC 1-11 Creggan Church Records. Also, in 1861, an Andrew McMATH was a bank manager at Castleblayney for the Belfast Bank. In Griffiths, such a name shows up in Castleblayney on Noble Street.  By the time of Griffiths Valuation, the resident of Aghadreenan, Parish of Donaghmoyne, Co. Monaghan.was Hamilton McMATH. Also in Griffiths, Andrew McMATH was the owner of TULLYARD (OSNB i 5): The road from Crossmaglen to Castleblaney passes thro' this td. Its distance from Crossmaglen Is about 1 1/2 miles & from Castleblaney about 3 1/2.

[48] Aughadreenan AKA Aghadreenan, Parish of Donaghmoyne, Co. Monaghan.

[49] Francis McCAMMON

[50] John MURPHY

[51] John STEELE, City of Dublin Attorney. I have no idea who he might be, but there is an OLIVER-STEEL connection in 27 Aug 1757 when William OLIVER of Farmacaffley married Elizabeth Steel of Drummad. SOURCE: St. Patrick's Cathedral, Church of Ireland, City of Armagh. NOTE: There is a townland of Drumadd in the Parish of Armagh which would have been nearby to Ennislare.  NOTE: A William STEEL had a holding in Dromadd and a residence at Dromogher SOURCE: PRONI Freeholders Records: D/1928/F/1B 1753 Co. Armagh Poll Book

[52] James NIBLOCK of Castleblayney, Co, Monaghan Innkeeper

[53] Robt WELSH of Tullymore Parish & Co of Armagh Miller

[54] Tullymore, Parish of Armagh, Co. Armagh was also a long time residence of various OLIVERs. SEE: Map.

[55] John OLIVER of Tullymore, Parish of Armagh, Co. Armagh,  Farmer. I am guessing that this is the son of John OLIVER who died in 1772 probably at Tullymore and is also the husband of Catherine WHITESIDE. It is likely that he died in 1806. SOURCE: 1806, Feb 9, a John OLIVER of Tullymore Sturgeon was interred at St. Patrick’s Cathedral (Church of Ireland).

[56] Tobias MAGUIRE

[57] Drumc??ow , parish of Clonfealle, Co of Armagh is likely Drumcullen, Parish of Clonfeacle, Co. Armagh.

[58] John OLIVER of Tullysarren, Parish & Co of Armagh. I am guessing that this is the son of John OLIVER who died in 1772 probably at Tullymore and is also the husband of Catherine WHITESIDE. It is likely that he died in 1806. SOURCE: 1806, Feb 9, a John OLIVER of Tullymore Sturgeon was interred at St. Patrick’s Cathedral (Church of Ireland).

[59] Tullysarren is a townland in the Parish of Eglish, bordered on the west by Mullanture.

[60] Revd James WHITESIDE of Drumflugh, Parish of Clonfeagle, Co. of Tyrone. I am guessing that he is the father of Catherine WHITESIDE who married John OLIVER of Tullymore some time before 1803.

[61] John OLIVER of Tullymore in the County of Armagh  Gent

[62] Catherine OLIVER née WHITESIDE wife of John OLIVER of Tullymore, County of Armagh  Gent

[63] Revd James WHITESIDE of Drumflugh, Parish of Clonfeagle, Co. of Tyrone. I am guessing that he is the father of Catherine WHITESIDE who married John OLIVER of Tullymore some time before 1803 and also mentioned in 1800 May 5 DEED: 523-426-346117.

[64] Joshua McGEOGH of Drumshill in the County of Armagh AKA Drumsill, Parish of Grange, CO. Armagh. NOTE: A William McGEOGH WITNESSED A Ballinahonebeg deed 360-85-241557 Feb 10, 1784. Also, in 1739, May 17 DEED 93-514-661, a Josua McGEOGH of Drumsill witnessed a HAMILTON-GILLMER deed. CHECK deed 704-529-482264 McGEOGH-NIMMO re: Tullymore.

[65] John OLIVER of Tullycarrent in the County of Armagh father. If Tullycarrent is indeed the same townland otherwise known as Tullysarren, then this John OLIVER is most likely to be connected to the OLIVERs of Mullinture & Tullysarrenmentioned in leases throughout much of the 1700s. I am also of the persuasion that he may also have been known as being of Tullymore.

[66] Tullycarrent Since there is no such townland currently with this name in Co. Armagh, I am going to take a leap here and suggest this is likely Tullysarren (until proven otherwise), Parish of Eglish – the townland that abuts Mullintur. (SEE footnote for John OLIVER of Tullycarrent) What is curious though is that the townland index at the Deeds registry included “Tullycarrent” in the list of townlands associated with the 1804 August 31 DEED: 567-358-381199 between Joseph OLIVER - James HAMILTON and concerning the marriage of Joseph OLIVER & Jane HAMILTON – but the name does not show up in the actual deed (I have a copy).

[67] Jas WHITESIDE jr of Drumflugh in the Co of Tyrone Gent. He is most likely a son of Re. James WHITESIDE.

[68] John OLIVER of Tullysarren. Given the date of this deed (1807) and the deed dated 1785 that deeded Tullysarren to a James OLIVER, I wonder if John might be a son of James.

[69] Tullysarren, Parish of Eglish, bordered on the west by Mullanture.

[70] Rebecca HOLMES née OLIVER. SOURCE: National Archives - a marriage bond between Rebecca OLIVER and James HOLMES in 1774. She would be the daughter of John OLIVER and b.1746 SOURCE: Deed 398643 referring to a deed from 1761 November 4 to William OLIVER of Mullintur for the lifetimes of two of John OLIVER of Tullmore’s children: Rebecca age 15 (therefore b. 1746)

[71] James HOLMES husband of Rebecca OLIVER.

[72] Blackwatertown, Parish of Clonfeacle, Co. Armagh

[73] Honourable James Lord of Charlemount

[74] I don’t have this lease. Need to search under Charlemount leases to see if there is a record in the Deeds Registry.

[75] William OLIVER - the bachelor linen draper of Mullinture who died in 1779. (SOURCE: Will Probate and other deeds)

[76] Samuel KNIPE

[77] William OLIVER of Tullymore. He could be a son of John OLIVER of Tullymore.

[78] Andrew OLIVER of Enniskillen, Co. Fermanagh. A Rev. Andrew OLIVER shows up there in the 1788 poll of electors.

[79] CALDWELL?

[80] John TROTER of Mullybeggan?

[81] Mullybeggan. There is a Mullyleggan in the Parish of Clonfeacle. Most likely I made a transcription error.

[82] John Lloyd SANDERSON. NOTE: A John SAUNDERSON married a Sarah OLIVER in 1805. SOURCE: National Archives 2007 notes on Marriage bonds. Also, most interestingly, there is a record in 1825 of a John SANDERSON in the leases of Tullysarren from the Earl of Charlemount.

 

 

 

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