Descendants of Allan Martin
Generation No. 1
1. ALLAN1 MARTIN was born 1743, and died 1 October 1820 in Ringfad1,2.Burial: Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
Child of ALLAN MARTIN is:
2. i. ALLAN2 MARTIN, b. 1777; d. March 1854.
Generation No. 2
2. ALLAN2 MARTIN (ALLAN1) was born 1777, and died March 1854. He married JANE. She was born 1783, and died February 1868. The gravestone erected by George Crean Martin includes mention of Allan Martin "Late of Ringfad". Burial: St. Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland See: Biography of Allan & Jane MARTIN
Notes for JANE: According to a letter from H. Wallace & Co., she willed a property in Ballee to her daughter Jane Martin. Upon the death of this Jane Martin (Jr.), the property was to be distributed amongst all the daughters of her mother, Jane Martin Sr..Burial: St Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
Children of ALLAN MARTIN and JANE are:
3. i. SUSANNA3 MARTIN, b. Abt. 1800; d. 7 May 1885, Aughaville, Co. Armagh.
ii. GEORGE CREAN MARTIN, d. 24 April 1899.Burial: St. Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
iii. SARAH MARTIN, d. 27 November 1834.Burial: St. Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
4. iv. ALLAN MARTIN, d. 12 February 1850.
v. ARABELLA MARTIN, d. 1 July 1836, St. Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland.
vi. JANE MARTIN, d. 30 December 1890. Burial: St. Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
5. vii. MARY MARTIN.
viii. ELIZABETH MARTIN, m. THOMAS PATTERSON3, 3 January 1828, Ballee Nonsubscribing Presbyterian Church. SOURCE: Ros Davies. (She cites the Newry Commercial Telegraph Newspaper – “NCT”): of Ringfad; 2nd daughter of Allen; married Thomas Patterson on 3 Jan 1828 at Ballee Non Subscribing Presbyterian Church by Rev. David Whyte (NOTE: There was a Reverend James PATTERSON who was the minister at this church from 1782-1798.)
Generation No. 3
3. SUSANNA3 MARTIN (ALLAN2, ALLAN1)4 was born Abt. 18005, and died 7 May 1885 in Aughaville, Co. Armagh6. She married ALEXANDER EDGAR7,8 18 June 1835 in Ballee Non Subscribing Church9. He was born Abt. 1800, and died 2 July 18859. In her will, Susanna Edgar left her husband two hundred and one pounds and five shillings. Will: 4 June 1885, District Registry at Armagh (I have the actual will in my possession.) See: Biography of Susanna Martin & Alexander Edgar
for ALEXANDER EDGAR: Armagh
Clergy 1800-2000 by Rev. W.E.C. Fleming. p113 says that he
was a carpenter in Belfast. From Martin's Belfast Directory
1840-41, page 124 there is an entry for Alexander EDGAR,
joiner who lives at 40 Academy Street. In the 1852 Belfast Directory,
Alexander Edgar is listed as a foreman carpenter at 1 Campbell's buildings,
1 Townsend St., p 180. There
is also an inscription in a photo album that Grandma had from "A
EDGAR" in 1875. Interestingly, the writing style is very similar
to my father's.
Children of SUSANNA MARTIN and ALEXANDER EDGAR are:
i. JANE4 EDGAR, d. Abt. 1919. Jane lived at Aghavilly with her brother Hugh, the minister of the church. She died at Ardglass sometime around 1919. She was a favourite aunt of her niece Jane Edgar BROWN who was staying in the house when Jane EDGAR was dying. For reasons that are lost to us, Jane BROWN was not allowed to see her aunt even though she was calling out for her. NOTE: I could not find her grave at either Ardglass or Aghaville – two of the places that I might have expected.
HUGH EDGAR10, b. 1835; d. 22 April 1894. In the book
Armagh: One Hundred Years Ago A Guide and Directory 1888 by George
Henry Bassett, p. 179 - Hugh Edgar is mentioned as the pastor of Aughavilly.
In the book Armagh
Clergy 1800-2000 by Rev. W.E.C. Fleming. p113: "Hugh
Edgar. Son of Alexander Edgar, Carpenter, of Belfast. Born in Belfast
c. 1837. Self-educated; Q.U.I., B.A. 1864; and entered T.C.D., June 21,
1866, aged 29 years, B.A. 1872, M.A. 1876. D. 1870; P. 1871; C. of Drumbeg
(Down), 1870-75; I. of Aghavilly, 1875-94. A mural tablet in Aghavilly
Church is inscribed: "Sacred to the memory of Rev. Hugh Edgar, A.M.,
Rector of the Parish of Aghavilly for 19 years, who entered into rest
22nd April, 1894, aged 59 years. This tablet is erected by the parishioners
to record their esteem for of (sic) his faithful labors, and to express
their sorrow at his lamented death." He is buried in Clifton Street
6. iii. SUSANNA M. EDGAR, b. 1847; d. 28 October 1921, St. Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland. See Biography:
4. ALLAN3 MARTIN (ALLAN2, ALLAN1) died 12 February 1850. Burial: St. Nicholas Parish Church,Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
Child of ALLAN MARTIN is:
ELIZABETH4 MARTIN, m. THOMAS PATTERSON, 3 January 1828, Ballee
Non Subscribing Presbyterian Church. This
placement of Elizabeth MARTIN is an assumption based upon the birth date
and residency of Allen MARTIN who I take to be her father.
5. MARY3 MARTIN (ALLAN2, ALLAN1) She married REV SAMUEL JOHN CORBETT ORR11. was born 12.
Notes for REV SAMUEL JOHN CORBETT ORR: I am still on a bit of a fishing expedition with respect to the MARTIN ORR connections. For example:
SOURCE: Ros Davies ORR/MARTIN connections go back a bit: Hugh MARTIN . Saintfield & Newtownards of Killynure; b. abt. 1695; son of William Martin & Mary Orr; married Lilias (Lily) Orr (daughter of William & Isabella) in Bangor; father of Mary; then married Margaret Watson; father of Hugh b. Ballymoney; then married Mary Robb; d. Ballymoney, Newtownards RAJ g6
John MARTIN . Saintfield & Comber of Killynure; b. abt. 1693; son of William Martin & Mary Orr; d. Clintinacally, Comber RAJ g6
TO DO: Look at "Ulster Pedigrees, descendants, in many lines of James Orr and Janet McClement, who emigrated from Scotland to Northern Ireland circ 1607" by Ray A. Jones. The earliest Orr reference is of James Orr, born 1580 in Scotland, Also, a publication by Gawin Orr of Castlereagh compiled in the 1820's, "Genealogy of the family of James Orr and Janet McClement of Ballyblack". This manuscript is in the Linen Library in Belfast. (SOURCE email #740)
Children of MARY MARTIN and SAMUEL ORR are:
7. i. RICHARD BINNEY4 ORR, b. 18 February 1847, Killough, Ardglass, County Down; d. 29 November 1921.
8. ii. LETITIA ORR, b. 18 January 1849, Strabane, Tyrone, Ireland; d. 4 April 1934, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Generation No. 4
6. SUSANNA M.4 EDGAR (SUSANNA3 MARTIN, ALLAN2, ALLAN1) was born 1847, and died 28 October 1921 in St. Nicholas Parish Church, Church of Ireland, Ardglass, Co. Down, Northern Ireland. She married JOHN MONTEAGLE BROWNE. He died 18 February 1919.
Notes for SUSANNA M. EDGAR:
family was Church of England. SOURCE LDS 0101608 Vol 1 p307 Died at age
74 (given that we know the date of death & age at death, her birth
date is likely 1847). Downpatrick was recorded as place of record. She
died at home under the care of her daughter, my grandmother, June BROWN
(born Jeanne BROWNE). Her son-in-law, Thomas Jackson BROWN was also there.
The two of them and their three children had come from Canada to take
care of both their ailing parents. Their lengthy absence from Canada cost
Thomas Jackson BROWN his job with the CPR. See: Biography
of John Monteagle BROWNE & Susanna EDGAR
They lived in a house called "The White Lodge" near Coney Island. In the obit of his eldest son, he is described as living at Ringfad, Ardglass, Co. Down. His granddaughter, Dorothy Robertson, thinks that they had two residences for years, the other being in Knock, but that in later years they moved full time to Ardglass. In the marriage notice of his daughter, Jeannie Edgar, he is described as resident at Tullycarnan, Ardglass and Knock, Co. Down.
John Montague Browne owned a drapery business. The last person known to be running it was Hugh Martin in the 1950s. He sold it and a few years later there was an accident and it burned down. It was rebuilt and is now a clothing store in Ardglass called C.W. Wills. Back when Browne ran it, people came from the surrounding areas to have their clothes made up. The bolts of cloth were displayed on the ground floor and the tailors and seamstresses worked upstairs.
Children of SUSANNA EDGAR and JOHN BROWNE are:
JAMES CARLYLE MONTEAGLE5 BROWNE, b. 1877; d. 8 August 1910,
Residence: D'Olier, Cherryvalley Park, Knock13; m. ELIZABETH
to his obit, he died young, had a widow and had worked for 12 years as
an assistant in the Surveyors Department of Belfast Corporation. No children
are mentioned. In his obituary, he was described as "a young man
of upright character and conspicuous ability and one who always carried
out his duties in a highly satisfactory manner". Burial: Dundonald
ii. ANNIE BROWNE, m. TOM GILPIN.
Notes for TOM GILPIN:
The old Irish name for Gilpin was MacGillifin. SOURCE: email 655 "Irish Pedigrees, Descendants of Fiachra, Vol. 2 pg 564.
POSSIBLE SOURCE: Ros Davies - Thomas GILPIN . Bright Killough; husband of Elizabeth Anne Montgomery; father of Thomas Charles b. 7 Oct 1868 & George b. 17 Sep 1869 & Elizabeth b. 12 Nov 1870 CR MY NOTE - The Thomas GILPIN b. 1869 might be the right age for Annie's husband.
POSSIBLE SOURCE email #545 (John Westley GILPIN - ancestor?
MORE GUESSES: email 753 Dr. GILPIN of Copney, Co. Tyrone
COLONEL DSO EDGAR MONTEAGLE BROWNE, b. 15 June 187815;
m. OZRA HINSHELWOOD, 22 February 1915, St. Jude's Church, Southsea16.
During WWII lived 66
Elm Park Garden of SW 10.
iv. MAJOR MC MARTIN M.G. BROWNE, m. ETHEL. Served in Royal Field Artillery. (Source: News clipping on Hugh Browne] In the 1940s lived at Cotswold, Harlow, Essex, England. As a teenager, I visited them there in the late 1950s. She was a celebrated painter.See: Biography of Martin & Ethel BROWNE
HUGH ALEXANDER EDGAR BROWNE, m. ELEANOR, 1919, Ireland. From
a news clipping, we learn that he received a commission in the Royal Engineers,
was a prominent member of the Knock Rugby Football club and captained
the second XV when they won the Junior Cup. Also played for Ulster in
the Junior-Inter provincial. A member of the firm of Browne Brothers
architects and civil engineers, Scottish Temperance Buildings, Belfast
and "recently returned from Canada, where he spent the last three
years, to follow the example of his brothers" [all of whom were in
the military in WWI].
MAJOR JOHN PLUNKETT BROWNE. A news
clipping refers to Lieutenant J. Plunkett Browne,3rd Battalion Inniskilling
Fusiliers inspecting the troops. He "complimented the lads on
their fine and smart appearance". Addressing the company, he
"spoke of the advantages of physical drill, especially to lads
living in the city, and how necessary it was to have a sound body and
good physique to take part successfully in the battle of life".
JANE EDGAR BROWNE, b. 10 July 1881, 234 Crumlin Road, Knock, Belfast,
Antrim, Northern Ireland17; d. 7 October 1964, Vancouver,
BC, Canada; m. THOMAS JACKSON BROWN, 27 January 1909, St. Columba's Church,
Belfast18; b. 19 June 1879, Armagh, Northern Ireland19;
d. 29 July 1933, 1450 Inglewood Ave., West Vancouver, BC, Canada.
She and Thomas Jackson BROWN sailed for Canada on the afternoon of the day of their wedding, January 27th, 1909 on the Empress of Ireland out of Belfast. See Biography. Her wedding linen had the Killyneur rose (pink) embroidered on it. (The whole front of the Killyneur house was clad in rose vines – but I have yet to track down the actual rose.). At some point, Jane changed her name to June (or Jeanie). At the time of her death, according to her death notice, only one brother was still living and in England. I would assume that to be Martin. Burial: Ocean View Cemetary, Burnaby, BC, Canada
Notes for THOMAS JACKSON BROWN: The Register of the Royal School of Armagh shows him as a student from September 1891 to June 1894 and to be living at Killynure. QUESTION: Where did he train as an engineer? Colraine Technical? Belfast Technical College, or did he train in the Great Norther Railway Works in Dundalk or at Harland & Wolffs Shipyards in Belfast? Or elsewhere? He emigrated to Canada in 1907 and corresponded with his wife-to-be while he was still in Canada. Their mothers were encouraging the match. His family were Presbyterian while hers were Church of Ireland. He came back to Ireland and they got married and left the same day for Canada. Marriage: 27 January 1909, St. Columba's Church, Belfast20 They sailed on the Empress of Ireland in 1909 to Halifax. His brother, Bob, lived with him, even during his honeymoon. Also when they lived in Calgary at the turn of the century. Burial: Ocean View Cemetary, Burnaby, BC, Canada. See: Biography of Thomas Jackson BROWN & Jane Edgar BROWNE
7. RICHARD BINNEY4 ORR (MARY3 MARTIN, ALLAN2, ALLAN1) was born 18 February 1847 in Killough, Ardglass, County Down, and died 29 November 1921. He married MARGARET ANN BETHUNE21 2 January 1871 in Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia22, daughter of DAVID BETHUNE and MARY SMITH. She was born 27 March 1853 in Glascow, LKS, SCT, and died 3 October 1922 in Ambulance, Brisbane General Hospital.
Notes for RICHARD BINNEY ORR:
taught at the State School in Darkey Flat near Warwick (21 miles away),
Queensland, Australia - 200 miles west of Brisbane. The first information
that I have came from a letter written in 1896, presumably to his Uncle
George Crean Martin.
Children of RICHARD ORR and MARGARET BETHUNE are:
i. EVELYN MARY BETHUNE5 ORR, b. 10 November 1872.Not listed as being alive at the time of her mother's death 3 Oct 1922.
ii. CONSTANCE MARGARET ORR, b. 23 April 1875; d. 10 March 1876, Queensland, Australia.
iii. WILLIAM CUTHBERT BINNEY ORR, b. 1 July 1876, Queensland, Australia23; d. 7 February 1877, Queensland, Australia23.
iv. GERTRUDE LETITIA ORR, b. 25 September 1877. The birthdate of Gertrude Letitia Orr, as computed from the letter to George Crean MARTIN from Richard Binney ORR would be September 1877, however the Queensland Indexes to Births, Marriages and Deaths give us her birthdate as February 21, 1880. The family tree shared by Robyn Melise Condliffe has a birth date of 25 September 1877 that agrees with the letter and is the date I will choose for now. She remained single and lived with her mother until her mother died 3rd October 1922. Three weeks later (24 Oct 1922), she moved to 9 Gladstone Rd South Brisbane.
v. CUTHBERT DONALD ORR, b. 21 June 1879; d. 12 August 1918, Villers-Bretonneux, France. Apprenticed to foundry in Warwich in 1894 (age 15).
The "Descendants of Samuel John Corbett ORR" by Robyn Melise Condliffe show "died 12 Aug 1918 in Gallipoli WW1" but other sources (see below) have him dying at the Somme.
ORR, Private, CUTHBERT DONALD, 894. 42nd Bn. Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 12th August 1918. Age 35. Son of Richard Binney Orr and Margaret Anne Orr, of 95, Herbert St., Wickham Terrace, Brisbane, Queensland. Born at North Pine River, Queensland. SOURCE: VILLERS-BRETONNEUX MEMORIAL - Somme. SEE: http://au.geocities.com/thefallenofthe42nd/war-graves/eg-france-uk.htm
SOURCE: Australian War Memorial. http://www.awm.gov.au/database/roh.asp ORR, Pte. Cuthbert Donald, 894. 42nd Bn. For more information as well as a letter from his mother, see: http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/awm131/038/038078.pdf
vi. KATHLEEN MURIEL ORR, b. 29 September 188223; d. 10 October 1884, Queensland, Australia..
vii. EDGAR CYRIL ORR, b. 30 January 1886, Queensland, Australia; d. Aft. 3 October 1922; m. VIOLET JANE DAVIS, 4 July 1911, Queensland, Australia23.
viii. VIOLET IRENE ORR, b. 15 August 1889, Tingalpa, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia; m. ARCHIBALD COOK HAMILTON, 1912, Brisbane, Australia; b. 27 August 1891, Bulimba, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia; d. 27 March 1958.
ix. SYDNEY J. ORR, b. 1893.
x. RICHARD J. ORR, b. 1894.
8. LETITIA4 ORR (MARY3 MARTIN, ALLAN2, ALLAN1) was born 18 January 1849 in Strabane, Tyrone, Ireland, and died 4 April 1934 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. She married RICHARD ATHERTON 23 July 1870 in Queensland, Australia. He was born Abt. 1845. A letter from lawyers H. Wallace & Co. refers to her and gives her married name as Atherton. A letter from her brother mentions that she married before 1871 and has a large family living at Mackay - about 800 miles away. Letitia sailed to Australia on the ship Winterthur from the Port of London 26 Aug 1868 & arrived December 1868. Letitia shared a second class cabin with her brother Richard Binney Orr.Letitia stated her age as 21 & Richard 23. Both overstated their ages by 2 years. Headstone states father Rev J S C ORR, Belfast IRE. Burial: South Brisbane Cemetery
Children of LETITIA ORR and RICHARD ATHERTON are:
i. RICHARDENA BINNEY ORR5 ATHERTON, b. 3 June 1871.
ii. LETITIA EMILY ALICE ATHERTON, b. 17 June 1873.
iii. VIDA ALTHAEA ATHERTON, b. 6 April 1875.
iv. UNNAMED ATHERTON, b. 25 October 1876.
v. REGINALD OSCAR ATHERTON, b. 25 May 1878.
vi. ALAN RUPERT ATHERTON, b. 2 February 1880.
vii. ROSAMUND BRENDA ATHERTON, b. 6 July 1882
ix. AUBREY HOWARD ATHERTON, b. 29 February 1888.
x. ARNOLD HOWARD ATHERTON, b. 29 February 1888.
1. Gravestone in Ardglass C. of I. Church.
2. Letter from Richard Gilchrist, "Martin was a well known name in Ardglass until 1970 when the last of the name died. They all belonged to the same Martin clan. Some Christian mnames were James, Hugh, Emily, Mary, Olivia, Frances, Christina, Eliza, Charles and William."
3. Ros Davies Website, NCT MIs.
4. Armagh Clergy 1800-2000, 113, "Alexander Edgar, Carpenter of Belfast."
6. District Registry at Armagh.
7. Dorothy Robertson's memory..
8. Will of Susanna Edgar.
10. Parish of Altadesert, Perpetual Curates, 87, 1875 - Hugh Edgar, inst Jan 14 (D.R.). Q.U.I. B.A. 1864; T.C.D. B.A. 1872; M.A. 1876; ord. D. 1870: P. 1871: C. Drumbeg, 1870-5. A mural tablet in the church to his memory reads: - "Sacred to the memory of Rev. Hugh Edgar, A.M., Rector of the parish of Aghavilly for 19 years, who entered into rest 22nd April, 1894, aged 59 years. This tablet is erected by the parishioners to record their esteem of his faithful labours and to express sorrow at his lamented death" He was buried in Clifton Street Cemetary, Belfast.
11. Descendants Of Samuel John Corbett ORR from Robyn Melise Condlife.
12. email Nir-Down archives 30 March 1999.
13. Belfast Evening Telegraph, August 1910.
14. Will of James Carlisle Monteagle Browne.
15. 1922 Whos Who.
16. News Article, February 22, 1915.
17. Baptism Certificate.
18. Newspaper clipping.
19. Baptism Certificate.
20. Newspaper clipping.
21. Commonwealth Graves Commission.
22. Queensland Indexes to Births Marriages and Deaths.
23. Descendants Of Samuel John Corbett ORR from Robyn Melise Condlife.
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